Are who believe "Ya da da" real?

[Vater Araignee]

Are who believe "Ya da da" real?

Flat Eathers, hallow earthers, inverted earthers, hallow mooners etc etc.

I serious, I cant tell if the modern versions honestly believe this malarkey or they are just the worlds greatest trolls who wanted to piss people off but got trapped egging each other on without knowing that they are trolls too. Every time I run into the like, I can't tell if it is a poe.

Do you honestly think that there are people this stupid? And fundies don't count, I have yet to meet 1 that thought the earth was flat or the moon is a spaceship.

 

[Troy Spiral (13)]

I'm guessing there are a very small percentage of people that actually do believe it.  Then a much larger group surrounding that shit that are on the fence / doubtful about it but are sort of like "eh... guess it could be to  ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE (from a technical sense yes, from a practical sense no sorry).   This surrounding group encourages the real crazies to become more crazy.   

Most all of it is presented as "fact" when really its just based on "feelings" or "this is what I believe" even though its presented often as if there is factual evidence for it.   The believer believes fairly easily the intelligent (but) fair skeptic still  laughs, as its TOO much BS to even be taken seriously.   Much of organized religion is the same way, but , you know, peer pressure seems to "make" things true in peoples minds. 

 

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them;

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816

 

even though he was refering to the trinity concept there, its a fun/funny quote.  Sometimes its just not even worth the effort to try and dbunk certian BS , just because its sooooooooo BS... just   /chuckle /dismiss / do something useful.   (or debunking it could be see as useful)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[phee]

What gets me about this is... flat earthers, hollow moon believers, etc... are looked at as crazy when SO MANY beliefs that people have in mainstream societies all over the world are just as... unbelievable.

 

For example... A person can laugh a flat earther and then turn around, give part of their paycheck to people who believe they work for an invisible sky friend, whom needs your money and your obedience to get into his super-eternal-theme park of fun after you die. I guess it just depends on how common the silly belief is for it to be considered on the fringe it is... 

 

To me... people who believe that a bush talked, and that a man sacrificed himself to himself to protect the world from himself, is every bit as silly as thinking the earth is flat, or that the stars are actually little air holes of the giant box we are in.

[Vater Araignee]

38 minutes ago, phee said:

What gets me about this is... flat earthers, hollow moon believers, etc... are looked at as crazy when SO MANY beliefs that people have in mainstream societies all over the world are just as... unbelievable.

 

For example... A person can laugh a flat earther and then turn around, give part of their paycheck to people who believe they work for an invisible sky friend, whom needs your money and your obedience to get into his super-eternal-theme park of fun after you die. I guess it just depends on how common the silly belief is for it to be considered on the fringe it is... 

 

To me... people who believe that a bush talked, and that a man sacrificed himself to himself to protect the world from himself, is every bit as silly as thinking the earth is flat, or that the stars are actually little air holes of the giant box we are in.

Thing is Phee, I have successfully converted christians to agnostics. I don't treat all xtians like they are raving bigoted assholes because of the actions of westboro baptist church, and if you think about it you would see that if all xtians where like them in this country then same sex marriage would never have been legalized. So I can't treat them all like raving lunatics because of fundamentalists. However I have yet to hear of a single flat earther who could be convinced the earth was round and that's why I have to question validity of their claim of belief.  Frankly it is a lot easier to believe that an inadvisable sky daddy who created everything and loves you but will punish you for eternity if you don't ask to be forgiven for jacking off, than it is to believe that magic is how you would circumnavigate the planet north to south to north. Or is that center to edge to center?

 

[Scary Guy]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law has your answer.

Okay it doesn't, but it does have an explanation.

Faith and pseudo-science are an ever-shrinking hole filled by man's new found knowledge about the earth.

Depending on how far your level of understanding goes vs. level of faith certain ideas can start to sound retarded.

Flat earth, geocentrism, homeopathy, creationism, anti-climate change, anti-vaccines.  To me these are all bullshit, but others might see some as valid.  They see it as such either because of a lack of understanding, a lack of evidence, or a wilful blind eye in spite of the two.  That third option of cognitive-dissonance they seem to hold is either them lying to themselves or them lying to other people for either money or power.

[Vater Araignee]

7 hours ago, Scary Guy said:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law has your answer.

Okay it doesn't, but it does have an explanation.

Faith and pseudo-science are an ever-shrinking hole filled by man's new found knowledge about the earth.

Depending on how far your level of understanding goes vs. level of faith certain ideas can start to sound retarded.

Flat earth, geocentrism, homeopathy, creationism, anti-climate change, anti-vaccines.  To me these are all bullshit, but others might see some as valid.  They see it as such either because of a lack of understanding, a lack of evidence, or a wilful blind eye in spite of the two.  That third option of cognitive-dissonance they seem to hold is either them lying to themselves or them lying to other people for either money or power.

I about peo's law, that's why it gets confusing. Poe's law also gives me a great insult for the extreme of the extreme rad fems. I call one a poe and it goes ape shit ballistic that I'm denying that it believes what it believes.

And hey, I take offense to being lumped in with those lunatics. Actually I take offense to being labeled as anti-climate change. "Let it change" I say "Nothing you can do to stop it." However I do want to smack the piss outta people who believe in man made global warming.

The term for me is Man Made Global Warming Denier. I have a thread somewhere about why.