What Are You Thinking? (cont'd)

[Class-Punk]

5 hours ago, Scary Guy said:

My best guess, it's like diet goth.  A quick search reveals that it's a term real goths use to gatekeep what goth is to the pure "trad goth" forms.

This fits their definition of goth, but it does not fit mine.  To them I probably wouldn't be a goth, and so I say that those posers can suck my goth nutsack.

I was banned from the goth reddit for getting into it with a goth purist DJ there.  I snuck into the most popular goth discord with a different name and it felt pretty dead which I thought was probably from years of all the gatekeeping; which was sad because they probably could've had a voice chat server with thousands if they actually knew what they were doing.  They literally make you name classic goth rock bands to get in. 

They had a sort of public "foyer" chatroom at the discord and I posted a Rome song, and I assume because it had German in it, a woke mod deleted it and said something like it was Nazi music.  Goth purists reduce the people interested in their online communities and scenes and then complain that nobody wants to be around them; whereas being friendly with people would actually more likely get them to look into the original and older bands, and respect them. 

 

From what the early 80's scene looked like it was more about people being self-expressive than everyone adhering to strict rules, but that was when punk was more popular and connected to goth, and now unique individual expression and genre-experimentation seems more constrained, and we're probably getting less good music because of it.  But on the flipside, the unconstrained cuntiness that can be in punk culture and that staying with the goth purist attitude is a problem; because there could be young kids who could be blowing us away like some of the songs by Inhaler which are like some kind of savant rock and roll to me; but people only have so much self-esteem, and who knows how many got shamed out of making amazing music.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Class-Punk

[Slogo]

Wow. My mom's sister's ex husband's brother is an asshole

[SlavicGoth]

Nothing is better then using fresh hot peppers from your own garden in your breakfast 

[Scary Guy]

16 hours ago, Class-Punk said:

I was banned from the goth reddit for getting into it with a goth purist DJ there.  I snuck into the most popular goth discord with a different name and it felt pretty dead which I thought was probably from years of all the gatekeeping; which was sad because they probably could've had a voice chat server with thousands if they actually knew what they were doing.  They literally make you name classic goth rock bands to get in. 

They had a sort of public "foyer" chatroom at the discord and I posted a Rome song, and I assume because it had German in it, a woke mod deleted it and said something like it was Nazi music.  Goth purists reduce the people interested in their online communities and scenes and then complain that nobody wants to be around them; whereas being friendly with people would actually more likely get them to look into the original and older bands, and respect them. 

 

From what the early 80's scene looked like it was more about people being self-expressive than everyone adhering to strict rules, but that was when punk was more popular and connected to goth, and now unique individual expression and genre-experimentation seems more constrained, and we're probably getting less good music because of it.  But on the flipside, the unconstrained cuntiness that can be in punk culture and that staying with the goth purist attitude is a problem; because there could be young kids who could be blowing us away like some of the songs by Inhaler which are like some kind of savant rock and roll to me; but people only have so much self-esteem, and who knows how many got shamed out of making amazing music.

 

Yeah....  Again, they can lick my goth nutsack.  They have their little community and they think they're cool.  I've never been banned from there but left of my own volition (not that I was very active in the first place) as I could already smell the smugness in the air.

It's a shame because as you said not only are they doing damage to their own cliquish communities but the scene as a whole too.  So we either get other elitests shitbags who want to pretend that they're better than all the other walking shitbags on the planet, or we get nothing because they go "this environment is way too hostile" and they go off elsewhere and get into polka music or something.

[Class-Punk]

"Tronmohdachi Wonka,
Pejoy not Pocky, thonkya!"


 

9 hours ago, Scary Guy said:

 

Yeah....  Again, they can lick my goth nutsack.  They have their little community and they think they're cool.  I've never been banned from there but left of my own volition (not that I was very active in the first place) as I could already smell the smugness in the air.

It's a shame because as you said not only are they doing damage to their own cliquish communities but the scene as a whole too.  So we either get other elitests shitbags who want to pretend that they're better than all the other walking shitbags on the planet, or we get nothing because they go "this environment is way too hostile" and they go off elsewhere and get into polka music or something.

I'm not healthy enough to drink alcohol, but Polka is awesome for one to two hours before the hangover hits.  Polka was made for drunks.  Sisters of Mercy on the other hand, is good whether you are sober or drunk.

Edited August 3, 2023 by Class-Punk

[TronRP]

10 minutes ago, Class-Punk said:

"Tronmohdachi Wonka,
Pejoy not Pocky, thonkya!"


 

~~~~~

KAWAIIIIII!!!!!!!

[Class-Punk]

5 minutes ago, TronRP said:

~~~~~

KAWAIIIIII!!!!!!!

I will probably buy some Pejoy today.

[TronRP]

32 minutes ago, Class-Punk said:

I will probably buy some Pejoy today.

~~~~~

I looked it up earlier because I had never heard of that before. 

I cracked up when I saw this. 😆

[TronRP]

I get such a kick out of reading all of the posts on the forum that it gets harder and harder to tear myself away from my computer to get to work.

 

But a last, I must depart for now.

 

Until I am back to read again...

Adieu.

[NocteSpiritus]

How do adults keep a full time job (40 plus hours), a relatively clean house, and a social life? I'm exhausted after 43 (near 44) hours at the end of the week. I have little energy to do much in the way of house work once I get home.

[Queen of Foxes]

I need a hug... A real one... 

[Scary Guy]

1 hour ago, Queen of Foxes said:

I need a hug... A real one... 

 

[SlavicGoth]

I was just looking over photos from the other weekend at city club(not the weekend of the hit and run) that just got Uploaded to the Facebook and I think I realized who it was that probably hit me. The only other regular that I know of that is currently blonde is some pornstar that goes there. I ran into and talked to 1 of 3 potential people that did it at the party on Sunday 

[gwen]

i just want to sleep 8 hrs without a diaper on

and be able to eat 3 pieces of pizza

 

i miss

 

the good ol days.

 

you know

 

being able to sleep and shit normal

stuff like that....

 

someone plz invent the sleeping upright on the toilet-bed 

Edited August 4, 2023 by gwen

[oXMiahGraceXo]

14 hours ago, NocteSpiritus said:

How do adults keep a full time job (40 plus hours), a relatively clean house, and a social life? I'm exhausted after 43 (near 44) hours at the end of the week. I have little energy to do much in the way of house work once I get home.

I think anyone with a clean house has more than one person maintaining it tbh. 

 

My roommates both work full time and I work part time and do a lot of the cleaning, (basement, hallways, bathroom living room and the perpetual void of the kitchen) and we still have someone come deep clean twice a month and the house is still rarely actually clean. 

At the very least the laundry is never kept up. 

[TronRP]

1 hour ago, gwen said:

i just want to sleep 8 hrs without a diaper on

and be able to eat 3 pieces of pizza

 

i miss

 

the good ol days.

 

you know

 

being able to sleep and shit normal

stuff like that....

 

someone plz invent the sleeping upright on the toilet-bed 

~~~~~

Cha-Ching!!!🤑

[oXMiahGraceXo]

I just watched a train go by with all kinds of nice graffiti on it and it made me so so nostalgic for my hometown. 

 

It also made me wonder what the bridge tunnels murals look like now! 

Last time I went some new kids had painted over a memorial and I realized just how old I am now! A while new batch of teens who didn't even know the story had something new to say and that was more important than a wiggly figure that was supposed to represent someone who they had never met and would never know the name of. 

 

It's bittersweet to think that there could be like whole new stories there now.

[NocteSpiritus]

1 hour ago, oXMiahGraceXo said:

I think anyone with a clean house has more than one person maintaining it tbh. 

 

My roommates both work full time and I work part time and do a lot of the cleaning, (basement, hallways, bathroom living room and the perpetual void of the kitchen) and we still have someone come deep clean twice a month and the house is still rarely actually clean. 

At the very least the laundry is never kept up. 

 

I think that's the main issue; I'm the only one at the house. I'm doing what I can with the house. 

[TronRP]

14 hours ago, NocteSpiritus said:

How do adults keep a full time job (40 plus hours), a relatively clean house, and a social life? I'm exhausted after 43 (near 44) hours at the end of the week. I have little energy to do much in the way of house work once I get home.

 

11 minutes ago, oXMiahGraceXo said:

I think anyone with a clean house has more than one person maintaining it tbh. 

 

My roommates both work full time and I work part time and do a lot of the cleaning, (basement, hallways, bathroom living room and the perpetual void of the kitchen) and we still have someone come deep clean twice a month and the house is still rarely actually clean. 

At the very least the laundry is never kept up. 

~~~~~

Just to chime in on this a bit as I've been there, done that...

 

The having a social life with the full-time job, depends on the job.  The number of people maintaining a clean house depends on the level of germaphobia a particular clean freak has (speaking of myself...😆):

 

When I was in an administrative office building, I mainly had a desk job (that included overtime) while taking college classes (which were only twice a week) and I would hang out after work or classes because I was mainly siting all day.  When I got home, I took care of cooking and tidying up and would do major cleanings on the weekends.

 

When I did construction, it was all I could do to make it home at night, put things in place for easy access, pass out and get up to repeat the next day.  The weekends were for errands and sleeping.  Housework was something that was done late night or on the fly so there were all kinds of dusters, mini vacs, cleaning sprays, lint removers and Febreze had just come out so that kept odors down until a real cleaning could be done on a holiday weekend.  There was no real social life with the exception of visiting family on said holidays.  During this time, paper plates and microwaved meals was the thing.

 

When I did building maintenance and admin at a Japanese company, everyone worked overtime and after work socializing was mandatory (they were a bit more lenient with non-Japanese coworkers as mandatory socializing is not a part of everyone's culture).  That pushed cleaning back to the weekends, but dinner came home from restaurants...score!

 

Working as a "Chore Worker" for the State of Michigan, there is only a set number of hours that the state mandates for paid work, so fulltime was no where near 40 hours which left enough time to take care of multiple daily tasks and personal household chores.  Free time actually became a thing and socializing was frequent if even just hanging with the neighbors (during that time, everyone knew each other on the block).

 

Now, as a fulltime, 24/7, Home Care Provider through insurance, housework and socializing are actually parts of the job.  Fortunately, I am the caregiver to my sister so that's an added bonus.  However, an outside social life is limited dependent upon the needs of the patient, but on good days, fun things do happen in the way of outings.

[oXMiahGraceXo]

6 minutes ago, NocteSpiritus said:

 

I think that's the main issue; I'm the only one at the house. I'm doing what I can with the house. 

There's a book on this that @et-novumkeeps suggesting that I keep forgetting the name of! Haha but a lot of people are having this problem. 

[oXMiahGraceXo]

4 minutes ago, TronRP said:

 

~~~~~

Just to chime in on this a bit as I've been there, done that...

 

The having a social life with the full-time job, depends on the job.  The number of people maintaining a clean house depends on the level of germaphobia a particular clean freak has (speaking of myself...😆😞

 

When I was in an administrative office building, I mainly had a desk job (that included overtime) while taking college classes (which were only twice a week) and I would hang out after work or classes because I was mainly siting all day.  When I got home, I took care of cooking and tidying up and would do major cleanings on the weekends.

 

When I did construction, it was all I could do to make it home at night, put things in place for easy access, pass out and get up to repeat the next day.  The weekends were for errands and sleeping.  Housework was something that was done late night or on the fly so there were all kinds of dusters, mini vacs, cleaning sprays, lint removers and Febreze had just come out so that kept odors down until a real cleaning could be done on a holiday weekend.  There was no real social life with the exception of visiting family on said holidays.  During this time, paper plates and microwaved meals was the thing.

 

When I did building maintenance and admin at a Japanese company, everyone worked overtime and after work socializing was mandatory (they were a bit more lenient with non-Japanese coworkers as mandatory socializing is not a part of everyone's culture).  That pushed cleaning back to the weekends, but dinner came home from restaurants...score!

 

Working as a "Chore Worker" for the State of Michigan, there is only a set number of hours that the state mandates for paid work, so fulltime was no where near 40 hours which left enough time to take care of multiple daily tasks and personal household chores.  Free time actually became a thing and socializing was frequent if even just hanging with the neighbors (during that time, everyone knew each other on the block).

 

Now, as a fulltime, 24/7, Home Care Provider through insurance, housework and socializing are actually parts of the job.  Fortunately, I am the caregiver to my sister so that's an added bonus.  However, an outside social life is limited dependent upon the needs of the patient, but on good days, fun things do happen in the way of outings.

Anyone who works in manual labor has just nothing outside of work. 

I dated a construction worker for a brief period and I was working full time in a clothing store and part time supporting him basically, that crash at the end of a shift is brutal (and it happens all over again tomorow!) 

Insanity. 

[NocteSpiritus]

7 minutes ago, TronRP said:

 

~~~~~

Just to chime in on this a bit as I've been there, done that...

 

The having a social life with the full-time job, depends on the job.  The number of people maintaining a clean house depends on the level of germaphobia a particular clean freak has (speaking of myself...😆😞

 

When I was in an administrative office building, I mainly had a desk job (that included overtime) while taking college classes (which were only twice a week) and I would hang out after work or classes because I was mainly siting all day.  When I got home, I took care of cooking and tidying up and would do major cleanings on the weekends.

 

When I did construction, it was all I could do to make it home at night, put things in place for easy access, pass out and get up to repeat the next day.  The weekends were for errands and sleeping.  Housework was something that was done late night or on the fly so there were all kinds of dusters, mini vacs, cleaning sprays, lint removers and Febreze had just come out so that kept odors down until a real cleaning could be done on a holiday weekend.  There was no real social life with the exception of visiting family on said holidays.  During this time, paper plates and microwaved meals was the thing.

 

When I did building maintenance and admin at a Japanese company, everyone worked overtime and after work socializing was mandatory (they were a bit more lenient with non-Japanese coworkers as mandatory socializing is not a part of everyone's culture).  That pushed cleaning back to the weekends, but dinner came home from restaurants...score!

 

Working as a "Chore Worker" for the State of Michigan, there is only a set number of hours that the state mandates for paid work, so fulltime was no where near 40 hours which left enough time to take care of multiple daily tasks and personal household chores.  Free time actually became a thing and socializing was frequent if even just hanging with the neighbors (during that time, everyone knew each other on the block).

 

Now, as a fulltime, 24/7, Home Care Provider through insurance, housework and socializing are actually parts of the job.  Fortunately, I am the caregiver to my sister so that's an added bonus.  However, an outside social life is limited dependent upon the needs of the patient, but on good days, fun things do happen in the way of outings.

 

 

I'm there with the construction; albeit working in a restaurant. There's also stuff I wanna do around the house that require money and I wanna build up that savings fund for a bit before I spend more. There is a crash after a shift.

[et-novum]

7 minutes ago, oXMiahGraceXo said:

There's a book on this that @et-novumkeeps suggesting that I keep forgetting the name of! Haha but a lot of people are having this problem. 

@NocteSpiritus It's called How To Keep House While Drowning and it was recommended to me by a friend of mine who is a psychologist and recommends it to her clients. It's pretty short and easy to read but I found it helpful. It should be available from the local library

[TronRP]

2 minutes ago, oXMiahGraceXo said:

Anyone who works in manual labor has just nothing outside of work. 

I dated a construction worker for a brief period and I was working full time in a clothing store and part time supporting him basically, that crash at the end of a shift is brutal (and it happens all over again tomorow!) 

Insanity. 

~~~~~

I think that's also one of the reasons people get addicted to energy drinks.  While in college, mine was Amp by Mountain Dew and later, Monster.  I had discovered Frappuccino by Starbucks by the time I was doing construction.

[NocteSpiritus]

4 minutes ago, et-novum said:

@NocteSpiritus It's called How To Keep House While Drowning and it was recommended to me by a friend of mine who is a psychologist and recommends it to her clients. It's pretty short and easy to read but I found it helpful. It should be available from the local library

 

Thanks. I added it to my book list on Amazon. I can also look at Barnes and Noble as well.