Real Fur

[honeymustard02]

Just because I eat meat doesn't mean I go around wanting people to abuse animals.

Just because YOU think something is wrong doesn't make it wrong. There's a thing called cultural difference. That's what makes this world a great place. Yes what some people may do is disturbing but just because someone thinks it's wrong doesn't make it so.

Thank you for sharing your point of view, but I could have done without the insults.

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I am FUCKING OUTRAGED

[Homicidalheathen]

I come from a redneck family...have traveled some. I have eaten dog, goat....pig ears (don't ask) craw dads and opposum and some other not so tasty stuff like moose....

Squirrels and everykind of wild game in MI

I belong to a Shaman group and have no problem with people hunting, giving thanks to the animal spirit....honoring it.

As long as the animals are free range, the hunt is fair...and they are not hunted to much so that they become low in numbers.

Personally I don't eat meat for spiritual/energy reasons.

I just have a problem with farm raised animals and factory animals.

You call that a life?

Also, there are more humane ways of killing.....

PETA brings to light the abuse and torture of animals in todays world.

If I do go back to eating meat ever it will have to be omish or free range. I wouldn't feel right about it any other way....and the hormones and stuff....god knows what that does to you.

[Paper Hearts]

We're not debating whether or not neanderthols require meat, the issue is rather, civilized people: people whom have other means. The concern, to anyone worthwhile, is not how an animal is killed to make their wonderful shoes or coat (casserole, etc) but that an animal is killed for that purpose, at all, by whatever means. -But the fact, as far as meat for eating is concerned (here in the US) is that most of our meat comes from factory farms, the vast majority (if that's even relavent, again). Yes, puma and jaguar will eat meat forever, but we again are civilized and that's the difference. Going back to the puma or jauguar-if animals like these hadn't been already needlessly hunted to extinction in various areas of the country or were allowed to return (were reintroduced) there'd be no excuse for sport hunting prey type animals, either. What's more, the diet reccomended most lately as being the most healthy, only includes a very small amount of dairy and then only if a person is active (does physical labor or sports) but only every few days. As far as meat, only fish is reccomended but again, not even daily, maybe just a couple times a week-protein and calcium requirements are suggested through other means, most often. By now we know effectively how to accomplish this and the ways are quite as reachable as buying animal products. As far as clothing, there's really no apology satisfactory for buying or wearing fur...It simply comes down to whether you support unnecessary slaughter-if you do (by whatever selfish reason), anything you propose is, naturally, worthless to any 'sophisticated' person. Herein lies the real discrepancy...

Perhaps there are places where eating or wearing animals products as standards is still essential but United States is not one of those places. -People in these other areas have a defense for it but you using these foriegn destitutes as your defense is unpardonable. If you wait for those who you know are uncapable of doing what would be right for you, to do the right thing, then justice can never be achieved. It's a poor pretext you've chosen.

Do animals have rights?

Do people really have rights?

Aren't people animals?

Isn't our weapon, civility, rather than claws or canine?

[The_Dark]

Paperhearts... stop being so judgemental and insulting. You dont like eating meat. Thats your choice. It doesn't make you a better person than someone who does or more sophisticated. We are not better than the animals because we have a sophisticated culture. Animals have that too. I am not going to deny what I am so you or anyone else, can feel better about humantiy.

As for what diet is most recommeded lately as the most healthy... it's the Atkins diet, which includes a shit load of meat.

[Paper Hearts]

We're not debating whether or not neanderthols require meat, the issue is rather, civilized people: people whom have other means. The concern, to anyone worthwhile, is not how an animal is killed to make their wonderful shoes or coat (casserole, etc) but that an animal is killed for that purpose, at all, by whatever means. -But the fact, as far as meat for eating is concerned (here in the US) is that most of our meat comes from factory farms, the vast majority (if that's even relavent, again). Yes, puma and jaguar will eat meat forever, but we again are civilized and that's the difference. Going back to the puma or jauguar-if animals like these hadn't been already needlessly hunted to extinction in various areas of the country or were allowed to return (were reintroduced) there'd be no excuse for sport hunting prey type animals, either. What's more, the diet reccomended most lately as being the most healthy, only includes a very small amount of dairy and then only if a person is active (does physical labor or sports) but only every few days. As far as meat, only fish is reccomended but again, not even daily, maybe just a couple times a week-protein and calcium requirements are suggested through other means, most often. By now we know effectively how to accomplish this and the ways are quite as reachable as buying animal products. As far as clothing, there's really no apology satisfactory for buying or wearing fur...It simply comes down to whether you support unnecessary slaughter-if you do (by whatever selfish reason), anything you propose is, naturally, worthless to any 'sophisticated' person. Herein lies the real discrepancy...

Perhaps there are places where eating or wearing animals products as standards is still essential but United States is not one of those places. -People in these other areas have a defense for it but you using these foriegn destitutes as your defense is unpardonable. If you wait for those who you know are uncapable of doing what would be right for you, to do the right thing, then justice can never be achieved. It's a poor pretext you've chosen.

Do animals have rights?

Do people really have rights?

Aren't people animals?

Isn't our weapon, civility, rather than claws or canine?

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[Paper Hearts]

Paperhearts... stop being so judgemental and insulting. You dont like eating meat. Thats your choice. It doesn't make you a better person than someone who does or more sophisticated. We are not better than the animals because we have a sophisticated culture. Animals have that too. I am not going to deny what I am so you or anyone else, can feel better about humantiy.

As for what diet is most recommeded lately as the most healthy... it's the Atkins diet, which includes a shit load of meat.

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Atkins is the most healthy diet? I won't even respond, it's not worth it-

[Head Wreck]

i did a study on Prockter and Gamble's animal testing policy during a university module on business ethics; whilst finding out that some animals are totaly unsuited to the testing due to physiological differances, procter and gamble were actively investigating other methods.

i am against animal testing but some animal rights groups do more harm than good. and it is known for some "cruelty" videoas to have been rigged (not all)

I live in a rural area, and spend a lot of time on the mountains and forrests. Nature is unbalanced here due to the hunt (which thankfully has been banned, totaly inhumane and bloodthirsty) killing way too many foxes, though roads do get more of the kills, bloodsports is an abomination. we have too many rabbits here. we have to many grey squirels here. a lot with miximitosis. unsuitable to eat.

i only kill what i eat. thats why you'll more often than not find me with a fishing rod than an airgun. i dont eat much meat, but a bit of wild goose or the odd bit of beef and lamb is nice, i have been known to go on vehgie sprees and forgot how long i've been without meat

leather: i use a lot of it, i recycle a lot, but i'm loking for some new butt leather to make a few additions to my armour, and a carveed scabard for my Sabre wouldnt go amiss.

animal cruelkty: bad. however if we were vegies the apendix wouldnt be a leftover part of our genetic history. i cant go without leather shoes. (synthetic materials are not as breathable and tend to be sweat buckets wich isnt advisable as i have to wear boots to support an old break in the foot that set badly

[kellygrrrrrl]

That video is very disturbing.

I cannot watch things like that because it haunts my mind.

Unfortunately, even with the boycoting, and active prevention groups, this still goes on more often than we would like to think.

As far as dieting goes, Who cares. Eat what you like, but there is a consequence for everything we eat. I am a firm believer of "You are what you eat"

If we eat fat, we will get fat. If we eat sugar, we will get cavities, and diabetes. If we eat nothing but proteine, then our arteries will get plugged. With a combo of all things, we can offset and or counteract the affects.

YAY!

[Paper Hearts]

-Not "diet" as in a weight loss program but "diet", as in what is normal healthy intake...

I'm not a member of PETA. I am a member of the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy, however.

[The_Dark]

I stick with the Paleolithic diet as close as I can. I can't give up my Diary products though. I like the cheese too much. and I just can't eat a hotdog without a bun.

I'm 38 and have the pulminary system of an 18 year old Athlete. You stick with what works for you and I'll stick with what works for me.

[raziel4772]

We are not better than the animals because we have a sophisticated culture.  Animals have that too. I am not going to deny what I am so you or anyone else, can feel better about humantiy.

As for what diet is most recommeded lately as the most healthy... it's the Atkins diet, which includes a shit load of meat.

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Atkins is the most healthy diet? I won't even respond, it's not worth it-

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You’re all going to think I’m an ass for saying this (which I am) but I think we as a species did not claw, fight and struggle our way to the top of the food chain to eat the same thing as the animals on the bottom. As far as the Atkins thing paper hearts already said it.