phee Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Tom Tom Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCat Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Tsk Tsk dirty fucker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda Starrr Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Just like your ex, Jeff. A dirty whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Asshole, prick, bastard... I heard a story on NPR yesterday. They interviewed the foreman for the grand jury on the first indictment. He said the charges are well-founded and furthermore, that the jury was composed of liberals, conservatives, and independents, and their decision was unanimous. Liberal Democratic witchhunt, my ass..... Now a second indictment... =) The hammer may get tossed back into the foundry.... Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda Starrr Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Do I hear "Loser" by Beck? I think I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I love the way they always pick the worst possible face photo when reporting on politicians fuck ups. Makes them look that much more stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeDanGuy Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 As much as it delights me to see Tom indicted, it's not like these charges are for anything substantially evil. They both lie in the murky domain of campaign finance law, where the boundries are already fairly arbitrary. Now if they could just get him on that puppy-strangling charge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I guess Dan. You could say something similar about all the people involved in the corporate scandals too. Vague laws... didn't kill anyone... blah blah blah. I think the point is he will bend whatever rules he needs to benefit his party and himself. THAT causes major harm to the overall balance of power in both the Texas and federal legislatures, ad infinitum... And THAT , I feel, deserves a significant punishment. Plus... I will almost universally not like someone that aquires the moniker "hammer". Like I'm supposed to be impressed that he's a ruthless jerk??? Uh..no. I think I might just start a thread on bad puns about his name.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted October 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 With Mr. Delay... He seems to be big on a moral high ground, which is where the dramatic irony comes into play... And yes it is not like I don't think that every other politician is just as bad, it is just in this case it is the pot calling the kettle black.... or something hypocritical like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeDanGuy Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 With Mr. Delay... He seems to be big on a moral high ground, which is where the dramatic irony comes into play... And yes it is not like I don't think that every other politician is just as bad, it is just in this case it is the pot calling the kettle black.... or something hypocritical like that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, that is indeed the funny part. I think the corporate scandals are worse because that involves actually stealing money. This is more just donating money, but then bouncing it around in a way that it gets to a political group that you can't donate directly too. I agree it's wrong and he should be prosecuted though, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 What I find funny about this whole mess is that Delay is being charged for breaking laws in 2002.. that didn't get passed until 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 What I find funny about this whole mess is that Delay is being charged for breaking laws in 2002.. that didn't get passed until 2003. I heard that too. There must be something more to it... how would it have gotten through the grand-jury otherwise? A judge has the ability to toss it on grounds like that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Everdark Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I'm no attorney, or judge, though I play one on TV, but I should think it would depend on whether or not the law was enacted retroactively, or if it was simply enforcable only from the date of its inception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 From what I have been able to find... this case was thrown out of one GRandJury after another for either lack of evidence or the fact that there was nothign to the charges. One will note that the grand jury that did finally indite him is located in the same county as the people that created the false memos about President Bush's military career that CBS used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msterbeau Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 As noted above. The jury was composed of people with a variety of political views and the vote was unanimous. Welcome back from vacation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Thanks. I wont be surprised if nothing comes of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted October 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Thanks. I wont be surprised if nothing comes of this. Me as well.... people of power seem to have away of making these things "go away" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I don't think that will be the case this time. I think once this really goes to court and all the facts come out it will be shown that Delay was working within thelaws of the time. Earle has been after Delay for 10 years... trying to pin anything he can on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phee Posted October 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I don't think that will be the case this time. I think once this really goes to court and all the facts come out it will be shown that Delay was working within thelaws of the time. Earle has been after Delay for 10 years... trying to pin anything he can on him. OR at least not breaking the laws any more than any other politician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollardave Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I love the way they always pick the worst possible face photo when reporting on politicians fuck ups.Makes them look that much more stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 The Conspiracy charge has been thrown out of court.. for now the money laundering charges still stand.... if the prosocution can make them stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homicidalheathen Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Gee, why am I not surprised. Another crooked politician? A republican scandal? Stop the surprises! I might keel over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dark Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Actually, it's looking like he isn't crooked. Half the charges have already been thrown out as being baseless. This was the only way the Democrats in the state to take a bit of power away from him... they don't have the votes to take him out of office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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