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:devil I remember the days when there were so many original people going to CC, even 3 Years ago. It would be awsome to get alot of the older crowd back and kick out these wannabe's!! I don't even see no where near as many original people going there as it used to be awhile back. Don't get me wrong, but there are some new original gothic people that have been pretty cool to me and my friends. The problem is lately there have been some real peices of shit going up there that alot of us DGNer's do not know. People who steal your drinks when your not looking and starting fights with patrons and security staff for no apparrent reason! I myself have seen this crap way too many times and so have my friends and I will be DAMNED if we let these assholes ruin our hangout!!! I have always said this, "Be Yourself, Not Someone That You are Not!" Its time to get CC back to the way it was, it can be done,but it will take all of us to achieve this goal and hopefully win!! We can do this! Don't let these wannabe's win, Send them back to the nearest sports bar where they belong, so they can pretend to be other people that they are not and what ever, Death to Old Navy!!! LETS TAKE CC BACK AND RELIVE THE GOOD OLE DAYS!!!

The DGNers rule as so do all good goths!!

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:devil  People who steal your drinks when your not looking and starting fights with patrons and security staff for no apparrent reason!

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Damn that was me on Friday. I'm a little shyt sometimes. I take it you saw me take some sips of yer beer. Then I manage to find some guy who says he's starting as CC security Saturday and I bitch-slap his ass. Ha! I've got to drink less.

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I first stepped foot into CC around 1990.

The clientele is very scary these days.

I can remember when there were "Hey - nice flannel" stickers on the doors. Ball caps & polos were non-existent.

I don't like being somebody's live freakshow. Go the fuck back to The Arena.

Got no beef with people who have been in the scene a long time and just don't wear the "uniform" anymore. Just the tourists who come to gawk, and take up precious space on the dance floor.

And don't fuck with me outside the club, either. Jon and I were getting our seatbelts fastened, parked on the street a few weeks ago, when some wigger in a white car pulls up next to us. Figured he needed directions, so I roll down my window. He looks in the car at Jon and says, "Are you the guy I just fought with?" And I say, "we haven't fought with anyone." He then gets out of his car to take a closer look, apparently is somewhat convinced we're not "the ones" and takes off.

But not before driving beside us, keeping pace on Bagley and looking at us menacingly until he had to go right and we had to go left.

Stay the fuck out of my club. Go find some jock to dick fight with.

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I've been going since 1998, and back then you wouldn't see the shit that hangs out there now. How quickly times change. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for new people, but the attitudes of these fucks that have been slowly filling City over the years makes me gag. If I want to be gawked at and talked shit about like I am a fucking science project then I will go to a sports bar. I go to City to be myself; to look how I want to look, act how I want to act, without some prick telling me I should conform to "what is popular". Fuck what is popular.

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Actually it's true Phee

If they need to fulfill some odd urges to look at us then why shouldn't they? Usually it's someone afraid to be 'US' themselves so let them live vicariously for now.

They WILL go away...you can't just WATCH the game forever.

You gotta jump in or go home eventually...if not what's the harm as far as I can see. :innocent

Although...

I loved it when the lightest color in the place was RED :woot:

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OH I so agree. People make comments on your pasties and what not now. That sort of thing used to be the norm. I will not go topless there again.

I've been going since 1998, and back then you wouldn't see the shit that hangs out there now.  How quickly times change.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for new people, but the attitudes of these fucks that have been slowly filling City over the years makes me gag.  If I want to be gawked at and talked shit about like I am a fucking science project then I will go to a sports bar.  I go to City to be myself; to look how I want to look, act how I want to act, without some prick telling me I should conform to "what is popular".  Fuck what is popular.

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Hide,

Lurk In shadows,

Watch.

Watch People,

Other Freaks

If you will.

Instead Of Being,

The One,

Who Is Watched!

It used to be,

My haven.

My Place.

Hide

Lurk in Shadows,

Watch.

It used to be,

As it is No more,

My Haven, My place

*^copied and pasted here from my myspace blog, it tells how i feel and is probably the first poem to ever just roll off my finger tips and probably sounds like many other poems written*

See I started at CC around 1995 and never been a real regular as well I have had a kid since I was 18. I loved the place, to watch other people and to be left alone to be me my self, I used to go and dance and not care but now I do, I feel as I am being watched, talked about, etc........ I get that in every day life, hell a friend just asked me the other day as we were out shopping and a lady stopped me, how many times do people stop and talk to me about my hair when I go out, or how often I notice people Looking etc.... I said just about every time and went to say the only place I go and get no beef is City, but alas that has proven not to be true. That’s why I wrote that poem in Myspace.

The Jock Preps will always hate us and would get upset if we attended there hang out and we get pissed that they are ruining ours.....I do think those who cause trouble (stealing fights etc..) should just leave but for those who don’t we have no business dictating who is allowed in and who is not. With out the new people our Culture would end up dieing as us older Goth Fogies die off. It is hard to pick though the crap to find a Diamond but those Diamonds are often worth all the crap we had to step in before hand. City will evolve with the times, and have its good and bad moments just like every other place. Regulars often keep a place afloat but also can be the Death of an establishment by not allowing for change.

The trick is to find the medium between Keeping the integrity of the Place and incorporating something new and Phresh. Most Bad apples will leave as they will get bored and often find the Dirtyness of CC appalling, and those who really enjoy the scene will stay.

I have no business saying who does and does not belong at city but I do know it has changed and not for the better for myself.

Perhaps for those who are so bold to mention things about our own attire etc..... We should be as Bold back and make mention of there lack of Tact. We all have to remember that the newbie’s that come in are awfully young and of a different generation that just does not have a clue as how to behave properly in public, no one has taught them how to behave, no one taught them tact, understanding acceptance.....This happens every where not just at City.

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I got no beef with anyone who doesn't wear the wardrobe, as I mentioned above, so long as they're not there just to gawk at & fuck with those of us who do.

I was just talking to a DGNer this past Saturday who doesn't dress "the part" and yet isn't a threat. And I've seen guys there who I know have been going there longer than I have, and have just moved away from the dress, hair & make-up.

But the point is, they're not there to gawk, fuck with, or cause trouble.

I'm sick of those who are there just to do that, and double-sick of how they like to plant themselves on the dancefloor, stand there with their beer & get in my way when I'm trying to dance.

I'm also not one to belittle newbies. I like babybats. So long as they're respectful. We all had to start somewhere, gang.

I did have to crack up at one I saw in the ladies' room last Saturday, though. She might have been all of 21, if that, and going on about how she's been going since she was 16, and how the place has always been disgusting, and how there was a fetus on the floor in the center stall and it stayed there for 6 weeks.

Um, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. Right. Believe that one. Not.

And neither did the other elder stateswomen who were in line with me, all of us rolling our eyes together.

Still, it gave us something to react to. :grin

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I got no beef with anyone who doesn't wear the wardrobe, as I mentioned above, so long as they're not there just to gawk at & fuck with those of us who do.

I was just talking to a DGNer this past Saturday who doesn't dress "the part" and yet isn't a threat. And I've seen guys there who I know have been going there longer than I have, and have just moved away from the dress, hair & make-up.

But the point is, they're not there to gawk, fuck with, or cause trouble.

I'm sick of those who are there just to do that, and double-sick of how they like to plant themselves on the dancefloor, stand there with their beer & get in my way when I'm trying to dance.

I'm also not one to belittle newbies. I like babybats. So long as they're respectful. We all had to start somewhere, gang.

I did have to crack up at one I saw in the ladies' room last Saturday, though. She might have been all of 21, if that, and going on about how she's been going since she was 16, and how the place has always been disgusting, and how there was a fetus on the floor in the center stall and it stayed there for 6 weeks.

Um, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. Right. Believe that one. Not.

And neither did the other elder stateswomen who were in line with me, all of us rolling our eyes together.

Still, it gave us something to react to. :grin

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That's all I am trying to say..I don't dress the part so much anymore, and I love some of the noobs that come through. Wear whatever you want, just don't be an ass.

And some of the crap that people come up with cracks me up..I've heard the fetus thing before! lol

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on saturday I watched a DGNer steal another DGNer's beer.

He came up and asked two of us if the pitcher was ours... we said no but before we could tell him who's beer it was, he grabbed it and poured a drink and left.... I guess his excuse would be that he was too messed up to know what he was doing was wrong... as opposed to being a thief.

I dont give a shit who goes there any more. I remember when I first went there, I wasnt a goth (cause hot topic did not exist yet) and most people here were not born goth... I gave up dressing "goth" or whatever... but I dont really begrudge people who refuse to move on with their lives when they start pushing 40, goth is a state of mind (I guess I dont have it any more because it seems now that to be "goth" you have to think a lot of things that I dont think, and you have to be a lot of things I dont want to be...

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I don't care who goes there and how they dress as long as they aren't starting crap...are not getting in my way of dancing and having a good time and go away after I make it quite clear I am not interested.

Ofcourse its always nice to go to a place that has appealing people to look at it but if they are not causing problems then who cares how they are dressed.

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on saturday I watched a DGNer steal another DGNer's beer. 

He came up and asked two of us if the pitcher was ours... we said no but before we could tell him who's beer it was, he grabbed it and poured a drink and left....  I guess his excuse would be that he was too messed up to know what he was doing was wrong... as opposed to being a thief.

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That's really lame. Just goes to prove what I was saying - it's not how you dress, it's how you act.

...but I dont really begrudge people who refuse to move on with their lives when they start pushing 40, goth is a state of mind (I guess I dont have it any more because it seems now that to be "goth" you have to think a lot of things that I dont think, and you have to be a lot of things I dont want to be...

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Hey! Some of us who are "pushing 40" just like to include a variety of things in our lives, including - for me - the goth scene. Fits in fine with the other things I have found to do & be over the years. :wink

I'm not sure I know what it is to be "goth" or what the 'goth" state of mind would be. I don't consider myself goth anyway, I'm more punk, which I think is also vague.

I guess I sometimes like the look and the attitude, and enjoy a place I can feel safe in immersing myself in it. I know this much - I've been accused of being a "Detroit Punk" when not in full dress or at a CC type club. So maybe it is a way you carry yourself, things you believe, ways you act? Dunno. But for me, CC is a place I can feel kinda comfortable in my skin.

Zhuk, you are the person I was referring to, of course. I think you and Holliwood fit in the "scene" (I hate that word) fine. But I can also see you two at a black tie reception, or a baseball game, etc. I think it's very good to be able to fit in at all kinds of venues. I know Jon and I do - but we feel very at home in the dress/atmosphere of goth/punk/whathaveyou as well.

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