enlightenmeant

[cptdeath]

if you quest for enlightenmeant then you are not good. if you seek enlightenmeant then you quest for power. knowledge is power if that is what you seek. if you quest for power then you walk a dark path. all the good you do along the way is little compensation to the grand culmination of your quest. you must see past good and evil so as to not be controlled. power currupts

absolute power currupts absolutley. weather your thinking your good or not you still seek power or else you would not have any motivation or desire to seek enlightenmeant. do not believe that you are a good guy against evil. those who would preach to you of enlightnmeant are willing to control you to bend you to there own purpose like a pawn in a game. we cant afford to be playing games with good and evil.

stand up and be a pillar of difiance. seek not this power so readily as it's price is unseen to you. streangth to defy your own desire.

these are the weaknesses that control us: GREED,ANGER,LUST,SYMPATHY,AND FEAR. IN JAPAN IT IS CALLED GOJO GIAKO the 5 weaknesses. to control your advisary find his main weakness. everyone has one that will allways work. in america we call direct marketing basics. sales techniques.

i just want to make people aware that they may be being led astray.

what is enlightenmeant to you? :innocent

[cptdeath]

rgreagherh

[Steven]

it is applicable wisdom;

it is the resolve of one's own intuition;

it is the ability to live with balance;

it is harmony with self;

purpose of self;

and ultimately selflesness ......

[Guest Game of Chance]

Agape

[Homicidalheathen]

Enlightenment to me is knowing what works for me and sticking to it. It is not the same for everyone so with that comes patience and exceptance of others especially.

Enlightenment is being so intune. So at peace. One is happy even in the worst situations when one cannot control the outcome.

Ever see a real poor, destitute person smiling? I wonder if they have not found the secret.

Then I see others running around all upset most of the time when they have everything.

So what ever it is, material wealth does not bring it. These days, material wealth is power.

[cptdeath]

material welth? Greed!

the desire to obtain something. not allways is it material.

welth is not so powerfull as the hand that weilds it.

the riddle of steel.

[Steven]

Agape

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well said....

[Scary Guy]

If knowledge is power and power corrupts and corruption is crime and crime doesn't pay, then if you go to school do you ever really get paid?

Also the original arguement is only good if you believe in trivial things such as "good" and "evil" which in all reality do not exist and are just individual points of view.

BTW enlightenment is boring when you're the only one who has been enlightened and everyone else thinks your insane.

[Mikielikesit]

YES, the riddle of steel

[Homicidalheathen]

Scary guy is so smart it is almost scary....Ha! I made a lame ass joke.

Seriously, well put dude.

If knowledge is power and power corrupts and corruption is crime and crime doesn't pay, then if you go to school do you ever really get paid?

Also the original arguement is only good if you believe in trivial things such as "good" and "evil" which in all reality do not exist and are just individual points of view.

BTW enlightenment is boring when you're the only one who has been enlightened and everyone else thinks your insane.

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[Guest Game of Chance]

well said....

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Funny...when I posted that...I didn't think anyone would know what the hell I was talking about...

[Guest Megalicious]

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Also the original arguement is only good if you believe in trivial things such as "good" and "evil" which in all reality do not exist and are just individual points of view.

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Yes just what you feel Is "good " and or "evil" is your view point. Its how you feel. its how you perceive things. No one can think or perceive for another person. Reality is absolute....

your statement in itself is a contradiction ..... which is not possible in reality ....

[Steven]

Funny...when I posted that...I didn't think anyone would know what the hell I was talking about...

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the selfless side of love, we are not taught Agape this day and age. Instead we are taught the limited power of Eros in regard to love.....

....and by the way - I was pretty suprised to see that it was posted. I learned it from rebel Christians. Where did you learn the term Steve?

Steven

[Steven]

If knowledge is power and power corrupts and corruption is crime and crime doesn't pay, then if you go to school do you ever really get paid?

Also the original arguement is only good if you believe in trivial things such as "good" and "evil" which in all reality do not exist and are just individual points of view.

BTW enlightenment is boring when you're the only one who has been enlightened and everyone else thinks your insane.

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.... But then again, this triviaility and non-existence of good and evil is just a point of view.

Incidently I do beleive in absolutes and in good and evil, but thats no suprise.

[Guest Game of Chance]

the selfless side of love, we are not taught Agape this day and age.  Instead we are taught the limited power of Eros in regard to love.....

....and by the way - I was pretty suprised to see that it was posted.  I learned it from rebel Christians.  Where did you learn the term Steve?

Steven

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Some semi-secret society types...

[Steven]

Some semi-secret society types...

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Did they teach you the secret handshake too??? (shhhhhhhh)

[Guest Game of Chance]

Did they teach you the secret handshake too??? (shhhhhhhh)

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Something like that.

[Steven]

Something like that.

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Rats!!! i never got as far as the secret handshake.......

[Homicidalheathen]

I seek enlightenment. Anyone know where it went? Heh.

There are these SRF people who claim Laheri Mahashi was too this point and could reappear at will in his physical body and lives in the Himalayes for eternity.

Why would anyone who is enlightened want to stay in such a crapy world that is cold? He could have at least picked California.

I am glad my man is not a SRF person anymore.

[Guest Game of Chance]

Rats!!!  i never got as far as the secret handshake.......

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Its not that big of a deal...just lessons about life. In the first 3 degrees anyway.

[The_Dark]

You were a mason?

[Guest Game of Chance]

Not blue lodge like you're thinking...

[JaneDead]

Something like that.

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luuuucky! i never learned the "secret handshake"

though i learned one of another kind from my dad. it is OUR secret handshake.

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luuuucky! i never learned the "secret handshake"

though i learned one of another kind from my dad. it is OUR secret handshake. 

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Your dad and I know different secret handshakes...but they are based on the same symbolism...at least for the first 3 degrees.

[JaneDead]

Your dad and I know different secret handshakes...but they are based on the same symbolism...at least for the first 3 degrees.

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this is funny and i know this is probably way off from the original intent of the topic but goes with the title of this thought-

i realize to this day all the ways my dad helped to enlighten me. any time i come to uh.. "realization" in life i know that my ability to do that stemed from the experience he threw my way. and i use threw for a reason.

if you quest for enlightenmeant then you are not good. if you seek enlightenmeant then you quest for power. knowledge is power if that is what you seek. if you quest for power then you walk a dark path. all the good you do along the way is little compensation to the grand culmination of your quest.  you must see past good and evil so as to not be controlled.  power currupts

absolute power currupts absolutley.  weather your thinking your good or not you still seek power or else you would not have any motivation or desire to seek enlightenmeant. do not believe that you are a good guy against evil. those who would preach to you of enlightnmeant  are willing to control you to bend you to there own purpose like a pawn in a game. we cant afford to be playing games with good and evil.

stand up and be a pillar of difiance.  seek not this power so readily as it's price is unseen to you. streangth to defy your own desire. 

these are the weaknesses that control us: GREED,ANGER,LUST,SYMPATHY,AND FEAR. IN JAPAN IT IS CALLED GOJO GIAKO the 5 weaknesses. to control your advisary find his main weakness. everyone has one that will allways work. in america we call direct marketing basics. sales techniques.

i just want to make people aware that they may be being led astray.

what is enlightenmeant to you? :innocent

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ok so you mention greed, anger, lust, sympathy and fear. what about vanity? what about laziness?

and what if you help direct someone rather than preach? i don't think you can actually "preach" enlightenment and have it just be "learned" anyways.

or if enlightenment finds you because of the path you are on rather than actively "seeking" that which i believe comes to you naturally if you are open to it?

why play games with good and evil? i don't do that. never really thought about it actually until now. but, i don't do that. i accept balance in my life. the "evil" doesn't make me happy but it always serves a purpose.