Stop being nice to me, I don't like you!!

[Dollardave]

empires come and go we live forever

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The Empire Strikes Back

[JaneDead]

:laughing :laughing

[Draco1958]

Reaper, just want to say thank you for that compliment. You are right about Steven and his posts. And to include me the way you did is a big compliment and I thank you for that. Steven's posts always seem to come from the heart tempered with common sense and respect. I say seem because only Steven can say that for sure. For me to be compared to him that way is indeed a compliment. Does this mean I can start wearing my cowboy hat too??? Again thank you.

[cptdeath]

everybody should consider that we will never know all of the details in this conflict.

we all seam to think of marbelz as good girl. so for something to bother her this much to drive her to through political weight around on the site is definetly complicated and confusing, especially aggrivating to were she must speak out.

to drive her to use us as an outlet and maybee to find allies in this conflict is alot.

remember she normally would never take it this far to involve us in their business.

just consider what all forces are at work here.

i see she is very troubled but what is it she really wants, to lash out? to use us to come down on said individual with a mob mentality. does really matter who's at foult in this conflict.

or is she also looking for an answer or a brilliant sollution? If so what spacifically is the problem. we must identify intent , what is her intention with this thread? is she aware of what she intends to accomplish? and what is it?

i don't want to be used as a weapon in a personel conflict. what reason would we have to join in protest against one of our own (we don't know who) at the word of another.

look were all a team out here and i can't have this disention among the ranks.

unless you want to talk with me on a personel level about this I don't think i can help out. just consider who is being used and to what end.

you make a good case and based on what i hear and what i know about marbelz

i would say this" have no fear walk with a smile and treat others with the treatmeant theY earn. nobody wants to fight but don't be affraid to deffend yourself. If they stand alone against you then alone you should face them.

to involve others is childish but could be necessary. for all i know that could be the people who were misstreating me. bottom line is would you fight for me should we fight for you? some people just don't get along like shaq and kobe or me and my boss's son. we don't fight but we want to. what we need from you marbelz as a leader and moderator is a professional curtasey when you have to work with someone you don't like. you can find a way or you can walk away but as long as your both a part of this team you'll have to work together.

we should bring this to the light and not be so childish so who ever it is should not be afraid of us or are judgement. they should be free and comfortable to respond so we can base an open judgemeant on their actions alone and continue to function as a team. Either were all involved or were not and it's a personell conflict or it's public. I would appreciate seing y'all address this like adults and talk openly in a public fashion with the rest of the team present so we know whats really going on.

so who ever you are you would earn some of the captians respect by openly replying and thats one step closer to friendship. it's allready public. nobody is out to make enimies or hurt you but were all here so go ahead speak you have the floor. and take a day in between posts to cool off. =(

[Rayne]

This just in.. I'm actually wearing pants... (Sorry, couldn't think of any place else where it would be more relevant)

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... No way ... Has hell frozen over and I'm just not aware of it?

I'm kidding ... sorta. :laughing

[Steven]

You know, some day Steven, I am going to have to meet you and buy you a beer, or drink of choice.  Your train of thought is what would make this world better because you involve that rare trait that most people choose not to utilize...COMMON SENSE.  I enjoy your mode of speaking and it would be cool to converse with you, say issues on nuclear energy, space travel, hell even on whats in a hotdog lol.  Ok I was just kidding on that.  But it would still be cool to chat with you in person.  It may be some time for now as I prepare to go back out on the road, but when I do come back and plan to go to the club I will make sure you will be there.

  I will add that most people on here think like Steven such as Draco, Crank, Rambo, Cpt, Marblez, Black Sunday, and many others that i wish I had time to remark on.  The time I have spent reading the forums has been well worth it and fun at that.  I doubt it will ever retrieve a trait of the flame forums on DCC, but that is what separates the two message boards.

  Anyway, time to get going and GET R' DONE!  Laters.

-Thee Reaper

Jeff

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let me know when your back in town brutha...... i really would like to know why I'm so infatuated with the coney dog.

[Draco1958]

"quote"( i don't want to be used as a weapon in a personel conflict. what reason would we have to join in protest against one of our own (we don't know who) at the word of another.

look were all a team out here and i can't have this disention among the ranks. )

We are not being used as a weapon. Our opinion was asked for. To be used as a weapon, we would have to be directing negative energy at the other person and no one has. The worst that has been said, which I believe was by me, is that if you post in an open forum, everyone can respond whether it's someone you want to or not. A fact which is true. So let's not overinflate what is going on here. Yes you have the right to question motive, however you are almost doing what you say you don't want to be, a weapon. Saying one is childish and throwing their political weight around is being a weapon. And considering that she was asking for personal opinions isn't asking us to be a weapon nor throwing her weight around. Sometimes, we just need to answer the question and not overanalyze it or just not answer it period. We definitely do not need to throw out insults, even when not meant to be insults just to question one's motive for asking for opinions.

[Steven]

Captain.... you made some good points there.

The only thing that I could possibly offer for balance is that perhaps however, wherever and whomever this began with it may have now reached a point of exhaustion, where its no longer healthy at the moment to re-tread this ground.

But I am glad that there are those of us who 's intentions seem to be motivated by taking care of he community.

[cptdeath]

YOUR RIGHT i'M SORRY

she is good not wrong

i did not say we or i AM being used that way just that i don't want to be

trying to imply that a good person who would not publicize this actually has been pushed that far. sorry to to imply a political force but when your in a leadership position your looked up to for alot like guidence and role model stuff so it's easy to abuse that power with out knowing or being fully aware of that impact,

i don't want to accuse so much as warn of the dangers of the dark side.

and your right I'm just interested in the bennefit of the team as a hole.