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It's not out of any sort of pseudo-intellectual pomposity that I am an agnostic... my agnosticism stems directly from the root that I am a total fucking idiot and that I do not pretend to know anything.

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I can't believe in God.

If I did, I'd have to conclude that he hates me, and wants to make me suffer.

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....an interesting and very common observation...that GOD if he or she exists must therefore equate to a great cosmic punisher/torturer. seems so much more difficult to equate good things to the hand of God.

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....an interesting and very common observation...that GOD if he or she exists must therefore equate to a great cosmic punisher/torturer.  seems so much more difficult to equate good things to the hand of God.

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If I were the type to believe, it wouldn't be so much that I couldn't equate the good thigns as well at the bad--it just all seems so arbitrary. And when it comes to god, I really wouldn't like arbitrary.

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I believe in God. Very much so. He's done many awesome things in my life.

My only problem is that I dont want to follow Him like I know I should. I'm in a bit of a "dont wanna" stage in my faith. Its hard to give up everything you like and know for a HUGE leap of faith.

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I believe in God.  Very much so.  He's done many awesome things in my life.

My only problem is that I dont want to follow Him like I know I should.  I'm in a bit of a "dont wanna" stage in my faith.  Its hard to give up everything you like and know for a HUGE leap of faith.

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you may discover in time that much of what you think you have to give up ..... you dont. You may instead be called to use what you have and where you are to walk with God.

and you amy also find in time, that perhaps those things that you do have to set down simply no longer apply to the life you are leading, or in essence, steal from it.

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I believed in god fervently until I was 20 or so. Then it all just sort of fell out from under me. I didn’t get angry at god, nothing traumatic happened that made me say “how can bad things happen to good people if there is a god” or anything cliché like that, it all just…stopped making sense. More than that, it started seeming ridiculous. I didn’t want to lose my faith, it just sort of left me. I still tried to pray, to meditate, to talk to people about it, to investigate other belief systems, nothing fit. It still bugs me from time to time, but I’ve grown used to my spiritual void.

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I believed in god fervently until I was 20 or so.  Then it all just sort of fell out from under me.  I didn’t get angry at god, nothing traumatic happened that made me say “how can bad things happen to good people if there is a god” or anything cliché like that, it all just…stopped making sense.  More than that, it started seeming ridiculous.  I didn’t want to lose my faith, it just sort of left me.  I still tried to pray, to meditate, to talk to people about it, to investigate other belief systems, nothing fit.  It still bugs me from time to time, but I’ve grown used to my spiritual void.

I know exactly what you mean

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I have made my way in life from Catholicism to Wicca to non-denominational Pagan to basic agnostic.

I believe something exists. And I don't need to label she/he/it/whatever.

I believe all religions are valid. I think Buddha, Jesus, Bastet, etc. all rock.

I truly think we're all worshipping the same thing. I'm willing to try my best to live a good life, the "Golden Rule" being the sum guide of all my actions, and die and see either The Great Spirit, Yaweh, Buddha, Ceridwen - or none of the above waiting for me after I die.

I do think I'm going someplace like a Heaven, Rainbow Bridge, Summerlands when I die. I don't think I'm finished when my heart stops beating.

I don't believe in a cruel God. I don't for a second believe he/she/it floats around above the Earth, looks down, and thumps ShadeEverdark on the back of the head for kicks one day, inflicts cancer on TheDark's wife another day, pushes my cousin in front of a drunk driver another day. I don't think he/she/it conjures up hurricanes to punish New Orleans, etc.

If I believe anything in that regard, I belive the Earth was given to us as a gift, and then the Big Guy washed his hands and said, "I've given this to you, now it's up to you to take care of it - or not. Don't blame me if you fuck it up."

I think we bring our ills upon ourselves, and we are also here to help each other out. That if one of us gets cancer and needs treatment, we shouldn't be punished because we can't afford treatment - someone should make treatment available for all. That if someone's house burns down, a replacement should be available for them. That if someone is basically good, other "good" people should be there to help them in times of need.

I do believe that whatever God exists does step in and help people sometimes. I think he/she/it answers prayers sometimes, if not always. I believe he/she/it lends a helping hand on occasion. I believe we don't always understand the good he/she/it does.

I am wavering in my pagan stance. I believe I'm a true agnostic. I'm so not Christian. But I am a Jesusian. And I also believe in many Native American ways, pagan ways, etc. I don't go to services because I prefer one-on-one communication with The Big Guy. I also talk regularly with St. Francis, Mary if I feel the need, etc.

And no, they don't talk back. :wink I'm spiritual, not nuts.

I get equal satisfaction sitting in a pew in a beautiful Catholic Church that I do sitting in the middle of the woods with a big, friendly tree.

So yes, I believe... in something. :wink

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you may discover in time that much of what you think you have to give up ..... you dont.  You may instead be called to use what you have and where you are to walk with God.

and you amy also find in time, that perhaps those things that you do have to set down simply no longer apply to the life you are leading, or in essence, steal from it.

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That is the problem. I know the things that I'm holding onto are holding me back from my walk with God. I know what has to be done. I just REALLY dont want to do it.

And I know that its gonna kick me in that ass in the end. . . .

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I believed in god fervently until I was 20 or so.  Then it all just sort of fell out from under me.  I didn’t get angry at god, nothing traumatic happened that made me say “how can bad things happen to good people if there is a god” or anything cliché like that, it all just…stopped making sense.  More than that, it started seeming ridiculous.  I didn’t want to lose my faith, it just sort of left me.  I still tried to pray, to meditate, to talk to people about it, to investigate other belief systems, nothing fit.  It still bugs me from time to time, but I’ve grown used to my spiritual void.

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I've been there. Actually, I've been wandering between that and not listening for a while now. I was on fire for God once. And then, after a really bad scenario, I lost it. I tried to get the passion back, but I feel like I have this wall that wont come down. My spirtually walk is really messed up. . . .

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That is the problem.  I know the things that I'm holding onto are holding me back from my walk with God.  I know what has to be done.  I just REALLY dont want to do it.

And I know that its gonna kick me in that ass in the end. . . .

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this is the hard part.

"death to self" as an offering to Christ is a difficult process to understand, let alone acomplish. But we far too often try to grasp at everythgn completely before we'll start taking steps forward. This is where spiritual mentoring really helps out, and that too is biblical.

finding yourslef lost and at a loss for faith is not new to the christian in the modern age. This happend in biblical times as well, and is written down throughout the bible as forms of lamentations and prayers and songs.

its ok to be where your at by the way. Everyone I know has been there, including myself. Its part of the journey, I dont know why.

Do you have a safe place to fall?

Mentors and peers you trust?

Is there a church you feel safe in that you go to????

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That is the problem.  I know the things that I'm holding onto are holding me back from my walk with God.  I know what has to be done.  I just REALLY dont want to do it.

And I know that its gonna kick me in that ass in the end. . . .

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this is the hard part.

"death to self" as an offering to Christ is a difficult process to understand, let alone acomplish. But we far too often try to grasp at everythgn completely before we'll start taking steps forward. This is where spiritual mentoring really helps out, and that too is biblical.

finding yourslef lost and at a loss for faith is not new to the christian in the modern age. This happend in biblical times as well, and is written down throughout the bible as forms of lamentations and prayers and songs.

its ok to be where your at by the way. Everyone I know has been there, including myself. Its part of the journey, I dont know why.

Do you have a safe place to fall?

Mentors and peers you trust?

Is there a church you feel safe in that you go to????

you can PM me if you want.....

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I believe in something, not exactly sure what but there is something. I don't like to name it because I don't believe it has one.

I think about this a lot because I want to believe in something it's just hard when we are taught to see is to believe. If you can't see it then it's not true. I'm trying really hard to get past this theory.

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I believe in something, not exactly sure what but there is something. I don't like to name it because I don't believe it has one.

I think about this a lot because I want to believe in something it's just hard when we are taught to see is to believe. If you can't see it then it's not true. I'm trying really hard to get past this theory.

pick up a book called "you'll see it when you beleive it", by wayne dyer - helped me a lot with this very issue... (i've read it maybe 4 times now, over the course of a few years - i recommend anything by him)

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pick up a book called "you'll see it when you beleive it", by wayne dyer - helped me a lot with this very issue... (i've read it maybe 4 times now, over the course of a few years - i recommend anything by him)

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Did you know Wayne's a Detroit boy? He has a lot of very interesting ideas but he's so damn positive sometimes I want to smack him. :laughing

There does seem to be some truth in many of his ideas and theories though.

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