How many people have been

[BrassFusion]

Why do you dislike smart people with a work ethic who are more experienced than you in studying whatever your problem is?

[torn asunder]

Why do you dislike smart people with a work ethic who are more experienced than you in studying whatever your problem is?

my opinion, true healing can only come from within, when it comes to mental afflictions. oh, and smart is relative.

[Hellion]

:devil I have anxiety/manic,and also turettes Syndrome.I try my best to control it,and that is why I am antisocial alot.Just sucks that it is something that shows up later at the wrong time.Plus not having any health benefits,and a majority of free clinics are closed,(thanx to the state of Michigan)

I wish they would no stereotype people that have mental issue,and find a treatment to end it once and for all.With no reoccurances.

Throwing people in prison and not fisrt treating them will not solve the problem.

We need more research and free clinics for people who have no health coverage.Nough said.

[bean]

my opinion, true healing can only come from within, when it comes to mental afflictions. oh, and smart is relative.

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I would have to agree with this.

[BrassFusion]

Man, smart people with work ethics are taken for granted. A good psychiatrist could be like a friend who's really insightful. Bad ones can be as bad as harmful, that's true, but what's with lumping them all together?

And fuck yes, "smart" is relative. It's relative to stupid.

[torn asunder]

Man, smart people with work ethics are taken for granted. A good psychiatrist could be like a friend who's really insightful. Bad ones can be as bad as harmful, that's true, but what's with lumping them all together?

And fuck yes, "smart" is relative. It's relative to stupid.

stupid, by who's definition!? as for psychiatrists/psychologists/therapists, sure, they can be helpful (i've seen one, myself) but honestly, most of my progress/work on myself came thru reading, introspection, and meditation... (which i need to get back to)

[DeadBurgerKing (10)]

My mental handicaps I have been diagnosed with are manic depression and I'm bi-polar...though I dont take any meds cause id rather deal with it on my own and not have to rely on personality altering meds and I think I do a good job at hiding it...

[bean]

Man, smart people with work ethics are taken for granted. A good psychiatrist could be like a friend who's really insightful. Bad ones can be as bad as harmful, that's true, but what's with lumping them all together?

And fuck yes, "smart" is relative. It's relative to stupid.

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I am greatful for the 1 (ONE) (UNO) (UN) psychiatrist that was good out of the dozen or so that were horrible. When you've spent years being misdiagnosed, and on the wrong medications, in addition to receiving poor therapy one MIGHT be a bit jaded.

I've done a better job dealing with my illnesses on my own then these so called "smart people" with "work ethics." The work ethic thing makes me laugh...a lot.

[Hellion]

My mental handicaps I have been diagnosed with are manic depression and I'm bi-polar...though I dont take any meds cause id rather deal with it on my own and not have to rely on personality altering meds and I think I do a good job at hiding it...

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:devil weed always helped me,but it also denies you a job,(piss tests), that just plain sux.IMO.

[BrassFusion]

Work ethic, as in it takes a long time to get through all the school that requires. And yeah, Crank, weed helps some people, but it's still illegal and when you use it on your own, not really controlled. So it's self-medicating. Maybe they should consider legalizing at the same time they start weeding out bad psychiatrists.

[kellygrrrrrl]

I think a lot of mental illness is suggested.

you Know?

I'm sure that if I went to go see a shrink, he/she would definately tell me I had SOMETHING. I mean c'mon, they don't get paid if they just send you on your way and tell you you're alright.

I say that tongue in cheek really. Don't be upset.

No, I'm almost positive I would walk out of there diagnosed with like severe anxiety or even adult ADD or something. Maybe even a little Paranoid.

But, I have never seen one in my life, and I am a little skeptical. See above statement.

I try to keep telling myself that I can get through life without any pills. I can get through this with out someone telling me how to deal with it.

I try to keep a frame of mind that everything that happens is for a reason, even if it is bad. And I can deal with it.

Somedays I flip out. Somedays I flip out big time.

But I think everybody does every now and then with the stresses we are forced endure daily.

[Msterbeau]

Man, smart people with work ethics are taken for granted. A good psychiatrist could be like a friend who's really insightful. Bad ones can be as bad as harmful, that's true, but what's with lumping them all together?

And fuck yes, "smart" is relative. It's relative to stupid.

I think TA wasn't lumping good with bad, so much as saying that the more important piece of the puzzle is self-motivation to work on your issues and get healthy.

And yeah... bad therapists abound. My experience suggests that the one's who haven't gone through and worked on their own issues are the ones to be avoided. I guess that kind of gets to the work ethic thing... Too lazy (or scared) to get healthy themselves, first.

[BrassFusion]

I think TA wasn't lumping good with bad, so much as saying that the more important piece of the puzzle is self-motivation to work on your issues and get healthy.

And yeah...  bad therapists abound.  My experience suggests that the one's who haven't gone through and worked on their own issues are the ones to be avoided.  I guess that kind of gets to the work ethic thing...  Too lazy (or scared) to get healthy themselves, first.

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So true.

I was having these anxiety attacks about um... 2 or 3 years ago. They actually peaked right after the 2004 elections. It got so bad then that I went to my *real* doctor because I wasn't sleeping.

But before that, I just went to one of the psychologists they had at Wayne State where you could go in for free counseling. Remember, I said anxiety attacks- I would be in class or something, or driving, and I would just freak the fuck out. Still not sure why. I think it was all mental and insecurity and crap, but I thought it would be cool to have someone to talk to.

The guy was a douche. He asked me about what my lifestyle was like, and I told him about how I spent so much time playing video games and internet chatting, and how I've been overweight for my whole life and I feel insecure because of it.

To him, this all boiled down to "food issues" and "computer addiction." Astute. As in, ass-toot. I'm just glad I didn't pay him anything.

[Homicidalheathen]

I wonder when a little healthy paranoia becomes an unhealthy anxiety obsession. I think we sense things....and maybe we get uneasy because something is not quite right for us..but just walking around afraid all the time, can't say I have ever had that really except when I was tweeked out on something. Or for awhile after.

[Blackmail]

I'm sorry but I would still trust a psychologist than anyone on DGN in regards to mental health issues.

I've never been to a psychologists, and I imagine that there are some bad ones (like any proffession) but I've read enough to know why the profession exists and the fact that they have studied remedies for psychological ailments. I believe a few people can "heal themself", but most can't.

I also think alot of people on DGN are in denial about their own issues, but that's just an observation.

[Msterbeau]

To him, this all boiled down to "food issues" and "computer addiction." Astute. As in, ass-toot. I'm just glad I didn't pay him anything.

Mostly you get what you pay for. On the other hand, my therapist, awesome person the she is, was always willing to do what it took so I could afford to see her. I recommend her to anyone that'll listen. She's in your face when necessary but otherwise gentle and empathetic.

[The_Dark]

I have been debating answering this....

Mild OCD, severe ADHD, mild SAD, Paranioa

I also have brain damage from a fight when I was younger that has impaired cognative abilitys. I used to be smart.

I don't take drugs for any of these problems and I wont. I deal with them and I deal well.

I treat the SAD by having all the light bulbs in my house of the kind that simulate natural sunlight.

I treat the OCD by fighting it when ever I find myself giving in... must step on a horizontal crack with the left foot because I did with my right foot.

I try to deal with the paranoia as best I can. Which means I ignore my inclinations about peoples motives.

As for the ADHD... I deal with it. Focus focus focus... and I do many things at once...

There are times my problems actually help me. Say i have like 50 computer I have to get ready. I will setup a system for the task where in I work on 4-6 of them at a time. Each in a different phase of the operation. My OCD makes sure I do each of them exactly the same... My paranoia makes sure I dont miss anything and my ADHD keeps me boucning around and able to deal with surprises.

[torn asunder]

There are times my problems actually help me. Say i have like 50 computer I have to get ready. I will setup a system for the task where in I work on 4-6 of them at a time. Each in a different phase of the operation. My OCD makes sure I do each of them exactly the same... My paranoia makes sure I dont miss anything and my ADHD keeps me boucning around and able to deal with surprises.

this is the kind of thing that makes me think all these "diagnoses" are bullshit, in and of themselves. ocd? in thedark's case, it's called consistency. paranoia? again, for thedark, it's attention to detail. adhd? flexibility! why do we (society/mental health "experts") have to label things negatively like we do? people are different, and the only reason (to me) that they have issues with anything of this nature is because we (as a society) have made it acceptable for people to be "victims", to relenquish responsibility by saying, "oh, i have medical issue that i can't help - my [doctor/therapist/etc] even says so, so it's not my fault!" i think that stinks... you are who you are, and you need to learn to work within your own personality/abilities, not blame everything that's wrong on some trumped-up affliction.

:innocent :erm :whistling

[Blackmail]

this is the kind of thing that makes me think all these "diagnoses" are bullshit, in and of themselves. ocd? in thedark's case, it's called consistency. paranoia? again, for thedark, it's attention to detail. adhd? flexibility! why do we (society/mental health "experts") have to label things negatively like we do? people are different, and the only reason (to me) that they have issues with anything of this nature is because we (as a society) have made it acceptable for people to be "victims", to relenquish responsibility by saying, "oh, i have  medical issue that i can't help - my [doctor/therapist/etc] even says so, so it's not my fault!" i think that stinks... you are who you are, and you need to learn to work within your own personality/abilities, not blame everything that's wrong on some trumped-up affliction.

:innocent  :erm  :whistling

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Ok but what about all the people who have been helped by psychologists and medicines? People comtinue to go to them because they believe they are being helped by them. There is a "science" behind depression, serentonin levels can be balanced by various medicines, for example. You can't cure that on your own.

[BrassFusion]

Ok but what about all the people who have been helped by psychologists and medicines?  People comtinue to go to them because they believe they are being helped by them.  There is a "science" behind depression, serentonin levels can be balanced by various medicines, for example.  You can't cure that on your own.

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Absolutely right, but I can understand people who don't medicate for things they could get a prescription for. It's a sign of character to operate as you were intended to without risking forming a chemical dependency. It depends on the severity.

At any rate, one thing that should be part of every psychiatric regamin (in my opinion, anyway) is the process of being weaned from any medication.

[Fierce Critter]

There is a "science" behind depression, serentonin levels can be balanced by various medicines, for example.  You can't cure that on your own.

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Yeah. Believe me. I tried.

TheDark is a good example of how a person can make their "afflictions" work for them.

But there are many out there who are so overtaken by their conditions, that's not possible.

The OCD afflicted who have to turn a light switch on and off 33 times, wash their hands until they bleed, or collect everything in the world until their houses are unlivable would hardly be happy to call what they endure "constency".

Paranoia = attention to detail? Tell that to the agoraphobic who hasn't left her house in 13 years because of some "unknown" that will afflict her if she steps foot outside.

ADHD = flexibility? I am one of those who think ADHD is still a misdiagnosis a good percentage of the time. But for those truly suffering from its affects, I'd hardly think they'd agree it makes them flexible, so much as a prisoner to a mind that won't allow them finish anything.

[Guest Megalicious]

I am greatful for the 1 (ONE) (UNO) (UN) psychiatrist that was good out of the dozen or so that were horrible.  When you've spent years being misdiagnosed, and on the wrong medications, in addition to receiving poor therapy one MIGHT be a bit jaded.

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I couldnt have said it better myself.

people are different, and the only reason (to me) that they have issues with anything of this nature is because we (as a society) have made it acceptable for people to be "victims", to relenquish responsibility by saying, "oh, i have  medical issue that i can't help it....

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Actually in reality, going to seek therapy and or some kind of help with your mental illness is you saying to yourself ... "I have a medical/mental issue and I CAN help it ..

There are alot of layers to mental illness, like you said everyone is different. I use to think the same way TA, due to the fact that every therapist/psychiarist that I had seen up untill now couldn't help me. I began to think that pretty much all of it was bullshit. Untill I found my current one, its so good just to be able to enjoy things .. because the fact is Ive been stuck in this "issue" for so long ... I forgot what it feels like to truly be happy, as sad as that may seem, its true.

[The_Dark]

I agree. I'm an odd ball that has learned to deal with my problems and spin them in a possitive way. it doesn't always work. I fail at many things and if traced back to the source of the failure it's one of those listed problems.

Everyone is different and everyone has thier own path to walk on the way to a good life.

[phee]

:devil weed always helped me,but it also denies you a job,(piss tests),  that just plain sux.IMO.

Weed also rots your brain when used regularly

[The_Dark]

actually... it erodes short term memory retention but has no other real aafects on a developed adult brain. A developing brain on the other hand.. it can cause development disorders and....

what were we talking about?