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actually... it erodes short term memory retention but has no other real aafects on a developed adult brain. A developing brain on the other hand.. it can cause development disorders and....

what were we talking about?

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Yes... Mental illness and what it means....

I have seen many people diagnosed with ADHD, Depression, Anxiety.... And I see a vast difference for people wh actually have it vs. people who have a regular human problems....

My brother has severe depression.... and I sometimes get depressed...

A child I know has severe ADHD, she frustrates herself it gets so bad and she cannot control herself... my daughter sometimes gets hyper and unfocused...

Another person I know exibits Sociopathic behavior, he is manipulative, and basically tries to bend the universe to his will hurting whom ever in the process, and has a lot of vengence for certian individuals... I am sometimes selfish and inconciderate...

The point I am making is that the current climate is to diagnose everything with a slight tendancy towards a certain kind of behavior as having an issue and medicating it.... There are some that genuinely need help and benifit from medication and psychological help, but I think around 9-10 people who are diagnosed are just having regular human problems and issues, and could benefit more without drugs and such...

my opinion

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I believe I may have a hint of OCD =) I have this thing with nacho's and burrito's ... THEY MUST BE EVEN , every thing on them must be in the same amount!!! Jarod calls them my OCD nacho's  =)

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Those are some damn tasty nachos, too.

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this is the kind of thing that makes me think all these "diagnoses" are bullshit, in and of themselves. ocd?... you are who you are, and you need to learn to work within your own personality/abilities, not blame everything that's wrong on some trumped-up affliction.

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In general, I agree. Alot of diagnoses are bullshit. Anecdotally, see all the people here who had to wade through several mental health professionals before getting actual help.

The diagnoses are just tools, though. When somebody says "OCD", "BPD", "major depressive disorder", or "schizophrenia", they mean very specific things to a pscyhologist. 'Disorders' are, basically, a set of symptoms that occur together. So a psychologist can say "schizophrenia" and everyone knows what he means.

Getting help, that's trickier. There's a certain degree of being who you are, but when 'who you are' stops you from getting out of bed, eating, checking on your elderly grandmother, getting to work, etc, the word 'disorder' doesn't seem so far off. There are, of course, many degrees of functioning.

//Today's Psych 101 brought to you by Jarod!

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HAHAHA

OCD nacho's

Cute :happy:

For me everything has to be symetrical and or even.

Even my dinner has to be symetrical. It's just more of a presentation thing I think. If it looks good it tastes better!

I learned that from a chef.

I have learned to embrace and accept my "abnormal" personality traits.

Except for the phsycotic episodes once in a while where I lash (phsyco) out at everybody around me and think everyone is out to get me....(paranoia) and fate is out to make me fail and die miserable (Strait pessimism)

It can be bad. I am ashamed of this. It's like I lose control. I hate losing control.

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Maybe you just need a good hug... or a servere beating.

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I'll take the hug anyday - that is a nice way to feel the love and some compassion.

I'll take the beating as a form of self-punishment :woot:

Although I would prefer to be spanked rather than beaten Darky.....

I'm a little bit more conservative than that! :whistling :grin

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You know, I just have to say, that in a lot of ways, you guys are a form of therapy for me!

You all make me look normal!

HA! :whistling

I'm kidding, but no really.

I do find peace of mind knowing that I am not the only one who is a little of the rocker.....in a normal kind of way.

=) =) =) =)

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sorry, i didn't mean to say/imply that there aren't cases where medication is warranted, but i do strongly feel that it should only be a temporary thing. sociopaths, paranoia, ocd, (the 33-time light switch, etc) are examples, to me, of things that can be sorted out with counselling. (yes, i do think couselling can be of great benefit - i just think too many "doctors" are too quick to medicate) attention deficit? this is entirely what learning meditation is for. i've been at a point where my mind was like a remote control with the channel-change button stuck - there are reasons behind things like this, and i think if you work at it, you *can* control it and learn to live differently. a few years back i was 'diagnosed" as clinically depressed, and they said i had been for maybe 5-6 years. they wanted to drug me (celexa) and i took it for 2 weeks. i slept for 12-14 hrs a day, (work/sleep/work/sleep) and was basically a zombie the whole time - no laughter, no tears, no concern, no interest in anything including eating. i stopped for a while, then decided to give them another try - same thing. this convinced me that medication is just another way to hide from the things that are bothering you. *in my opinion*, if you can look to your past and honestly, truly face up to the issues you have, you can move past anything - *anything* that troubles you. i also feel (and perhaps this is where i differ from many people) that all illnesses stem from deep-seated mental issues (other than, of course, traumas like car accidents, broken arms, etc...) unresolved feelings of guilt, inadequacy, and anger/hate/rage/etc, when repressed and kept internalized, end up manifesting in things such as growths, tumors, and even cancer. (again, *my opinion*)

(i should say that my thoughts on this are really only applicable to people who were born without major physical defects - i won't get into anything related to that yet, unless someone specifically asks)

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sorry, i didn't mean to say/imply that there aren't cases where medication is warranted, but i do strongly feel that it should only be a temporary thing. sociopaths, paranoia, ocd, (the 33-time light switch, etc) are examples, to me, of things that can be sorted out with counselling. (yes, i do think couselling can be of great benefit - i just think too many "doctors" are too quick to medicate) attention deficit? this is entirely what learning meditation is for. i've been at a point where my mind was like a remote control with the channel-change button stuck - there are reasons behind things like this, and i think if you work at it, you *can* control it and learn to live differently. a few years back i was 'diagnosed" as clinically depressed, and they said i had been for maybe 5-6 years. they wanted to drug me (celexa) and i took it for 2 weeks. i slept for 12-14 hrs a day, (work/sleep/work/sleep) and was basically a zombie the whole time - no laughter, no tears, no concern, no interest in anything including eating. i stopped for a while, then decided to give them another try - same thing. this convinced me that medication is just another way to hide from the things that are bothering you. *in my opinion*, if you can look to your past and honestly, truly face up to the issues you have, you can move past anything - *anything* that troubles you. i also feel (and perhaps this is where i differ from many people) that all illnesses stem from deep-seated mental issues (other than, of course, traumas like car accidents, broken arms, etc...) unresolved feelings of guilt, inadequacy, and anger/hate/rage/etc, when  repressed and kept internalized, end up manifesting in things such as growths, tumors, and even cancer. (again, *my opinion*)

(i should say that my thoughts on this are really only applicable to people who were born without major physical defects - i won't get into anything related to that yet, unless someone specifically asks)

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That was so well said Torn.

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Take it from a Graduate Student studying Psychology. Now adays it is not hard for ANYONE to be diagnosed with a mental illness. Especially with the way insurance companies work. You could be experiencing mild depression due to simple life stress and be diagnosed with something because in order for your insurance to cover the illness the psychiatrist or counselor HAS to diagnose you with something or your meds and visits wont be covered. ......With that said....I have Major Depressive Disorder. (ha ha)

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Take it from a Graduate Student studying Psychology. Now adays it is not hard for ANYONE to be diagnosed with a mental illness. Especially with the way insurance companies work. You could be experiencing mild depression due to simple life stress and be diagnosed with something because in order for your insurance to cover the illness the psychiatrist or counselor HAS to diagnose you with something or your meds and visits wont be covered. ......With that said....I have Major Depressive Disorder. (ha ha)

good point, but mild depression from simple life stress isn't something that should be medicated in the first place - ithese are things people need to just take responsibility for on their own, in my opinion...

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